September 7th, 2004


Hey... at 7 p.m. tonight Condoleeza Rice is giving an expensive speech/Q&A session at Meany Hall at the U. Would there be any interest in protesting? (exit Iraq) Comment!!


Students Beware: Vector Marketing/Cutco Knife Selling Scam

In case any of you didn't already know, this company advertises vague "Customer Service and sales" work in "housewares and sporting goods" with "no door-to-door or telemarketing" for over "$12/base-appt" all over the nation and it's main recruiting website is

It turns out to be a kitchen knife selling scheme: after you pay about $150 for a demo set (that may be refundable) you are turned loose to sell these knife sets to your friends and family costing anywhere from $200-$2000 with a starting commission rate of 10%. Then you're supposed to ask them for the contact info of their friends and family and do the same. As reps are often misled about their job, they are also often misled abot the quality of the knives. You are hired as an independent contractor instead of an employee and that basically allows them to withhold pay for training, phone time, etc. There is a base pay per appt you don't sell at, as long as it is qualified by their standards (one-on-one done fully to someone over 25 with a job). They've admitted to fraud in settlements with the Australian Consumer and Competition Commission (1999), Wisconsin Consumer Protection Dept (1994), and Arizona Attorney General (1992). Wisconsin surveyed 940 Vector Marketing recruits in 1992 and found that almost half either earned nothing or lost money working for Vector and they earned less than $3 a day on average selling cutlery for Vector

Many sites and newspaper articles have have called Vector out for their scam:
Oregon Statesman Journal
Channel 10 News Albany:
Cornell University:

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i lived in the dorms last year, and i'm returning again next year. do you think i need a meningitis shot? has anyone you known ever gotten that? i didn't get a shot last year, but i was ok.

Volunteer for the Seattle Lesbian and Gay Film Festival

Hello UW,

I'm the Volunteer for the Seattle Lesbian and Gay Film Festival. We are nonprofit in Seattle that produces an annual queer film festival in the fall. I have an announcement that I think many of your students would be interested in hearing: we are currently in the process of recruiting volunteers to help assist with ushering, taking tickets, selling merchandise, setting-up and breaking-down events, and many other types of duties.

This year our dates are Friday, October 15-Thursday, October 22, 2004. The film festival is a great way to meet new people, support a nonprofit arts agency, and earn coupons to see free movies. You do not have to be gay or lesbian to attend or volunteer. All you have to do is have an interest in GLBTQ film and want to help out. For every 3 hours you volunteer you earn a coupon to see a movie on us--a great deal.

For more information send an email to me at You can also call (206) 323-4274 #1.


Cresdan Maite
Volunteer Coordinator
Seattle Lesbian and Gay Film Festival


Out of curiosity, when you look back over your entire summer, what's the first thing you see? Big or small, person or object?
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UW and how it relates to our state forests

I just wanted to let everyone know my recent experience in dealing how the UW is related to the health of our state forests and sustainability, cuz it is.
President Emmert just released a good statement about how the UW should steward the environment:
Emmert Statement

now we need to make sure the UW does enforce the ideals of sustainable building (wouldn't it be cool to know that the buildings we learn in were built while harming the environment the least?)

in order to do this, we should be attempting to use more wood that is certified sustainably harvested (FSC), which serves the purpose an organic label does on fruit. This process requires less clearcutting and lower logging levels in our state forests.
Today I went and testified in Olympia to the WA state Board of Natural Resources (which is a really random group of people hardly related to forestry (except our own CFR Dean Bruce Bare) deciding what our forests' logging levels should be, btw). I testified against raising the logging level, but they probably will. BY 38%!
plus more clearcutting.
this will pretty much rule out any chance of our state public forests ever getting certification for sustainably harvested wood, which is a growing market out there (in addition to just making sense as a goal). therefore, if we want to build sustainably, we can't use wood from our own WA public lands.

on that note (I should avoid politics on this site,I know, but this touches on issues that affect what happens on our school), vote for Mike COOPER for Public Lands Commissioner!!! Doug Sutherland is all for continuing the old dogma of 'cut 'em all down for profit now.' Cooper's for sustianable forestry. plus alternate energy.

on a totally random note and should be a separate entry, I noticed that all the people there were white. :-( I wonder what it is that prevents non-whites largely from doing environmental stuff. Divided interests? Lack of resources?

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Being stuck as I am out in Minnesota, I wasn't able to attend Bumbershoot. So, how was it this year? Orgasmically delicious? Exciting?

Oh, and I have not yet received my U-Pass/student sticker to put on my Husky Card. Does it usually take this long?
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Student Groups?


I was wondering if there are any interesting student groups out there. I have checked the website for SAO and looked at some RSOs. I'v been here for 2 years already and since I am moving off campus my dad wants me to join a club. I am worried about scheduling because I work 3 days a week (M,W,F) so I don't know if anything will fit in my schedule. Also, is there anything related to communications/sociology that I could join? Any ideas?

Also, cheap stuff is good, I looked into the yacht club, but it looks like a rip off. You have to spend $30 every quarter and you have to do a $20 initiation fee and if you forget to pay the $30 each quarter, then you have to do the initiation fee yet again. So, I'm thinking of not doing that. I am athletic and I like to sing, so any ideas would be helpful.
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books books books

about buying textbooks - d'you all mostly just buy at the university bookstore when you're back at campus (when classes start up) or would it be wise to buy now, have it shipped here at home, and then bring with?

two random questions

here are two totally unrelated questions:

does anyone have a copy of al black's "other holocaust" for me to borrow/buy?


is anyone here a member of UW's PRSSA? (i know that one's a long shot)
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